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Old 27-12-04, 00:29   #1
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WTF stupid car

ok my car is retarded, straight forward conversion conversion. These are the symptoms:
perfect start ****ed idle with missing, very loud sucking sound (almost like making boost sound)
car will not make power and cannot achieve more than roughly 2500 revs
i have tried the following (N?A plenum being used)
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3afms
checked for boost leaks
checked for proper setup of vacuum hoses
3computers
2 sets of injectors
3 rails
fuel reg
fuel filter
changed oil filter and oil
resealed plenum to inlet manifold twice
changed coil pack
tps
the little vacuum thingy with the spring inside it (its brass looking)
new leads new plugs
tried shaking loom while car was running
timing
waste gate
running car with no filter for turbo
filled fuel tank upto half


these are the things that may cause a prob that i cannot check
leaking exhaust manifold due to threaded stud hole
cannot check fuel pressure while car is running do not have guage


if anyone can solve this prob i will give them cash in hand lol the car is ****ting me that much (note i will decide how much cash in hand)

thanks apologise for long post

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Old 27-12-04, 00:41   #2
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Old 27-12-04, 15:03   #4
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LMFAO that is the best suggestion yet nad it would solve so many problems

and how do u think i check the fuel pump i haven't got a pressure guage
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Old 27-12-04, 15:08   #5
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pinch the fuel line in the engine bay. turn the key. if yo feel it fill with fuel its ok
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Old 27-12-04, 15:11   #6
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ahh do you have a turbo fuel reg?
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Old 27-12-04, 15:27   #7
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my cuz had a similar problem...it was later discovered that his cam was out 90 degres....dont know/think that is the case here.
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Old 27-12-04, 16:36   #8
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Make sure you have your fuel lines on the reg and the rail the right way, if there swapped you will get problems like this, fuel must enter the rail, exit the rail to the reg then return from the reg to the tank!
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when i had mine on the wrong way it wouldnt even start
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Old 27-12-04, 17:05   #10
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i put em back on identically, and to even prove i was wrong to a mate i put em on the other way

maybe this info might help when i pull an injector off the car runs better, the car can rev over 2500 rpm, and it only has the miss from the cylinder getting no fuel.

anymore ideas. dizzy not out either might not be exact but it isn't out

1st cylin on compression lined up the 10 deg mark with the mark on cam cover and set the dizzy button to first cylinder plug

and i do not have a rising rate fuel reg but i know that at idle it wont make a difference.

checked fuel pressure as well its at bout 35-40 psi due to a slight leak i think
but all near specs
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Old 27-12-04, 18:18   #11
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Have you checked that the leads are connected to the right spark plugs?
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Old 27-12-04, 18:53   #12
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i have replaced leads and plugs and the dizzy is numbered and the cylinder injector number leads are numbered so it is impossible to put them in wrong.

i think the solution o this problem is going to be from someone who has had the exact symptoms before.

dont suggest the simle fixes either unless on the electrical side of things cause i have tried everything mechanical

i had 2 working vls the other vl runs fine but this one is rooted
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distributor 1 cog out
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Old 27-12-04, 18:56   #14
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lol i have tried 2 teeth either way just out of curiosity
and what are the chances the turbo could be causing a problem?

eg waste gate not sealing or **** like that
it spools up in neutral it can blow off piping in neutral
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might be time to count the teeth on the timing belt man.
sounds like a timing related issue
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Old 27-12-04, 19:02   #16
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i think your right, but how can the belt move i never removed it. The car ran a few days before hand fine.

basically the only way it could skip a tooth is that startmotor some how making it skip a tooth
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well there ya go nothing to do with timing.
a new coil, leads plugs cas and dizzy rules out the entire ignition side of things

and the teeth arn't rounded or anything on the cog
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what bout injectors has anyone had probs with them if so was it loom or bad earth or bad power etc.

injectors have something to do with it
removing one makes the car run better wtf
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are the clips mixed up
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cant mix the clips up they have stickers on em
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rag in the front of the turbo?
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removed the filter all together to make sure nothing was smothering it
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Old 27-12-04, 21:28   #25
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hello, have a look inside the air flow meter you should see some very fine wires in a triangle shape one of them might be broken causing this problem as i have had this before, just a stupid question have you check the fuel quality, you have not picked up bad fuel have you? let me know how you go.

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