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Old 28-04-12, 12:45   #326
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Getting my car tuned on e85 in the next week or two. I was wondering what people are using for racing application? I was thinking running sucrogen. Duz anyone recommend something else?
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Old 01-05-12, 07:14   #327
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We tested some united servo bowser stuff on Sunday
Obviously the test tube reads on the high side but it tested at 94%!!
That's about where the sucrogen stuff tests at so it at least a genuine 85%
Not bad for $1.41 a litre compared to sucrogen at about $2.50

I bought 105 lts of it, just took up 5 jerry cans
Next time if I have to go up and buy any, I'll take a 44gal drum and fill that up
About $285 for 200lts of the stuff
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Old 01-05-12, 08:57   #328
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Cheers Troy
I'll put my results up in a week or two when it gets it's e85 tune.
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Old 01-05-12, 09:30   #329
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We tested some united servo bowser stuff on Sunday
Obviously the test tube reads on the high side but it tested at 94%!!
That's about where the sucrogen stuff tests at so it at least a genuine 85%
Not bad for $1.41 a litre compared to sucrogen at about $2.50

I bought 105 lts of it, just took up 5 jerry cans
Next time if I have to go up and buy any, I'll take a 44gal drum and fill that up
About $285 for 200lts of the stuff
keep it a secret otherwise demand will make it $2/litre haha

but yeh unlike the dog**** eflex stuff caltex sells, uniteds E85 is suppose to be at a minimum 85% ethanol
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Old 01-05-12, 11:06   #330
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can e85 be run with nistune ecu with 1000cc injectors?
Yes.
I have 1000cc sidefeed injectors, nistune, E85 making just shy of 230rwkw from an SR20DET.
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im starting to liek the ethanol im runnign the caltex eflex in my stagea made 306awkw seems to be not bad on fuel even when thrashing it
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Old 03-05-12, 18:07   #332
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what kind of comp ratio running wit the e85 ?

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Old 04-05-12, 06:46   #333
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Old 04-05-12, 06:53   #334
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We tested some united servo bowser stuff on Sunday
Obviously the test tube reads on the high side but it tested at 94%!!
That's about where the sucrogen stuff tests at so it at least a genuine 85%
Not bad for $1.41 a litre compared to sucrogen at about $2.50

I bought 105 lts of it, just took up 5 jerry cans
Next time if I have to go up and buy any, I'll take a 44gal drum and fill that up
About $285 for 200lts of the stuff
How long would it take you to waste 200lts of e85??And How long can you keep the fuel in the drum before it goes off?
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Old 06-05-12, 13:26   #335
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Hey all! I'm currently in a build and am seriously considering e85 as choice of fuel. whats a good combo with injectors,pumps,surge tank etc to make a min power of 400rwhp?


I'm running haltech ecu , 35/40, forged motor, ice ignition and the rest of the usual ingredients...

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Old 06-05-12, 14:04   #336
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i'm not 100% sure if im right here or my eyes were playing tricks but i think kings st united service station the one with hungry jacks is selling pump E85, ohhhhh yehhhhh
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Hey all! I'm currently in a build and am seriously considering e85 as choice of fuel. whats a good combo with injectors,pumps,surge tank etc to make a min power of 400rwhp?


I'm running haltech ecu , 35/40, forged motor, ice ignition and the rest of the usual ingredients...

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i run e85 in my car makes 315RWKW on 17PSi
I have 2.5ltr surge, 1/2 inch fuel line 1000cc injectors and aeromotive 1800HP fuel pump
you'll need at least 1000cc injectors or more depending on what you want to do in the future & also a min of 2 044's to run e85 as it uses about 30% more fuel that regular 98
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Old 07-05-12, 10:01   #338
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i run e85 in my car makes 315RWKW on 17PSi
I have 2.5ltr surge, 1/2 inch fuel line 1000cc injectors and aeromotive 1800HP fuel pump
you'll need at least 1000cc injectors or more depending on what you want to do in the future & also a min of 2 044's to run e85 as it uses about 30% more fuel that regular 98
i'm all for using single pumps, as its hard to tell if one pump has failed until you hit some boost and fry an engine

i've got the same pump in my corolla, they're fair loud hey
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Old 07-05-12, 11:29   #339
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i'm all for using single pumps, as its hard to tell if one pump has failed until you hit some boost and fry an engine

i've got the same pump in my corolla, they're fair loud hey
Yeah thats the main reason im going for big single over 3x044, if one 044 ****s itself during a pass, your engine is ****ed. Whereas if the aeromotive for some strange and uncommon reason ****s itself the engine should just lose power and stall

As above, how long can you keep E85 in a drum before it goes off? Month or two?
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i'm all for using single pumps, as its hard to tell if one pump has failed until you hit some boost and fry an engine

i've got the same pump in my corolla, they're fair loud hey
Hahaha
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its funny wen I start the car And let it all prime up before i start the car people look over asif its going to take off
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thanks man for your info. do you buy e85 from the drum or from pump? I hear it's never consistent at most caltex's that have it however uniteds are pretty consistent with the percentage????
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thanks man for your info. do you buy e85 from the drum or from pump? I hear it's never consistent at most caltex's that have it however uniteds are pretty consistent with the percentage????
I run from the pump eflex from caltex not to bad

they have a summer & winter blend apparently just have to allow for it in the tune basically but so far i've never had a prob & my mate runs it aswell & never had a problem
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It is quite simple, if your tuner understands E85(Eflex) in particular they can tune for the variance in the one tune in allllll ECU's.

Yes you will leave a little power on the table, but it won't be much.
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Old 08-05-12, 10:37   #344
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^^ exactly, well said. And if you want that little bit extra then it's a step up to barrel e85, but it's dearer than meth so youd have to weigh up how serious you wanna go! I have a few mates here in act who run pump, one Vl in particular is making 575hp on 28psi and it's never had a hiccup.
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My tuner has said that the pump stuff is fine weather it's the eflex fr caltex or united e85. United is better but for the street it doesn't really matter he can tune accordingly the reason caltex varies is stated above because they have two blends for the summer and winter

Best way to go about is use pump e85 around town but if racing fill up with drum can't go wrong and there will be no mixing difficulties in regards to drum and pump. Only thing that sucks is it hasn't made its way out to the northern suburbs just yet
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What kind of power increases are people seeing with 35/40's on a street style set up? List power and boost levels if you could and also which type of E85 you're using.
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Old 08-05-12, 15:16   #347
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It is quite simple, if your tuner understands E85(Eflex) in particular they can tune for the variance in the one tune in allllll ECU's.

Yes you will leave a little power on the table, but it won't be much.
eflex and e85 are two different fuels in melbourne anyways

e85 is fairly consistance from what i've seen

eflex is barge and varies from 70% to 85%
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Yeah, Eflex is Caltex's brand and I believe United are calling it E85? United from testing seems to be more consitant at a higher % of Ethanol.

Eflex varies, but what actually happens when it has less Ethanol and more petrol is the mixture gets richer.. not leaner. However depending on what it is mixed with the octane level will drop. This is what you account for by not having timing through the brass razoo.

You will still pick up bulk midrange and be able to run more timing than pump 98. How much well that comes down to your combo and your tuners experience.
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Only thing that sucks is it hasn't made its way out to the northern suburbs just yet
E-Flex at

CALTEX PRESTON
349 Plenty Rd
Preston, 3072 VIC


CALTEX CAMPBELLFIELD
1802-1808 Hume Hwy Cnr Barrys Rd
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E-Flex at

CALTEX PRESTON
349 Plenty Rd
Preston, 3072 VIC


CALTEX CAMPBELLFIELD
1802-1808 Hume Hwy Cnr Barrys Rd
Campbellfield, 3061 VIC


Thanks mate just the info I needed hopefully more caltex servos start supplying eflex looks like its making some decent power out of some top cars
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