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Old 18-06-09, 23:25   #26
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Seriously though I see so many noobs that cant ride to save there life and guess what there all riding, 4 strokes...

They are just so easy to ride, no skill involved at all, anyone can ride them. To ride a two stroke well takes skill. Heaps more fun as well when the band comes on. Not a fan of four strokes as you can tell lol.

i agree completely! NOTHING beats powerband, i still have my old yz80 that i learnt to ride on, and no **** that would give my xr250 a bloody good run for its money, its only an 80cc but let me tell ya, the thing ****in flies, i had a yz250 after that, oh the fun i had on that thing!

BUT, in saying all that, it really does depend on your riding style, and what kind of riding you do!
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Old 19-06-09, 00:35   #27
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my mate just wasnt a good rider and the taller 1st gear was no good for him on really step hills and when i would stall id hit the start button and off i went but he had to push his bike down the hill and try again, between all my mates only th ktm has had problems the thing just wont run right but its been ridden twice as much as every other bike, i got a brand new bike so i didnt need to do anything to it, im a mechanic and my best mate is a motor bike mechanic and as long as we kept the oil changes up and filters clean we had no problems


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Old 19-06-09, 18:44   #28
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i agree with what was said about 2 strokes, cant beat them! owned a cr80 yz125 and cr250 before i got my first 250f. ive now been riding 4 strokes for a year and a bit and recently bought the 09 CRF250R 3 weeks ago, excellent bike! easy to maintain, and very reliable. It handles the tracks the bush and any sort of riding i throw at no worries. the powers there in pretty much any gear, hated 4 strokes at the start but now i love them.
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Old 21-06-09, 13:51   #29
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i agree with what was said about 2 strokes, cant beat them! owned a cr80 yz125 and cr250 before i got my first 250f. ive now been riding 4 strokes for a year and a bit and recently bought the 09 CRF250R 3 weeks ago, excellent bike! easy to maintain, and very reliable. It handles the tracks the bush and any sort of riding i throw at no worries. the powers there in pretty much any gear, hated 4 strokes at the start but now i love them.
What your opinions about the new efi carb? any good?
I was thinking of upgrading but not to sure about the efi CRF450R.
Some feed back would be great.
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Old 21-06-09, 14:20   #30
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ended up buying a 2006 crf450 yesterday thanks to everyone for your helpful advice.
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Old 21-06-09, 14:47   #31
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Old 21-06-09, 16:27   #32
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What your opinions about the new efi carb? any good?
I was thinking of upgrading but not to sure about the efi CRF450R.
Some feed back would be great.
in my opinion it feels alot different from the 08 its really snappy and poppy and pulls like a donkey but they are still carby, i think next year the crf250rs come out with efi. i couldnt really compare the crf450, seeing as ive only ridden 3 different ones all of different makes, but the 09 crf450r that i rode was very smooth, well balanced and had big power. definatly a monster lol i think the 08s and below (carby) were a little more aggressive (so ive heard).
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Old 21-06-09, 23:47   #33
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Yeah I heard the same thing. They've been saying that the EFI CRF450R produces smother(wider) acceleration than the carb CRF450R. And reliability is way up there. Also I've heard that they can change there mapping on the EFI. It will be interesting to see the difference between lap times of the carburetor CRF450R and a EFI CRF450R. It's good to see Honda's up there with the technology.
Are the power figures any different between the CRF450R carb & CRF450R efi??
I remember my 05 CRF450R is 45rw/kw(standard).
I've also placed a twin-air air filtre on and a Pro Circuit exhaust. To help with response and acceleration(power).

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Old 22-06-09, 16:56   #34
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From my experiences the reliability has always been rite up with the hondas and yamahas, never had any major problems with them and neither have any mates besids one who seized his 250r last week.
I heard the new efi crf450r is pulling faster lap times but because its not as aggressive it doesnt feel as though your going faster, even though you are if that makes any sence, but im guessing the power figures will be a little different.
i love the way they look! they have gone back to the 96-99 model shape and put a new sharp twist on it.

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Old 22-06-09, 18:26   #35
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haha i had a cr250 97 model back in the day. First of the alluminium frame!

The 96 still retained a steel frame didnt it?

Me on my old CR250 03 model woooooot!
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Old 22-06-09, 19:07   #36
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ended up buying a 2006 crf450 yesterday thanks to everyone for your helpful advice.
Wicked, I know you'll be happy with a CRF450R. You'll have to tell us what you think. I know after your first ride you will have sore arms(from hangnig on).
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Old 24-06-09, 17:06   #37
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The new bikes are pretty crazy looking, the new four strokes must fly, my old KLX isnt the latest but is still good for 160 km/h and has plenty of grunt.
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Old 13-07-09, 18:03   #39
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Wicked, I know you'll be happy with a CRF450R. You'll have to tell us what you think. I know after your first ride you will have sore arms(from hangnig on).
took it out for the first big ride the other day, I'm really impressed with how easy to ride it is. The power is great for the bush. Couldn't be more happy with it except for dropping it and dinting the pipe a bit lol.
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Need some opinions. My valves are over due to be done on the CRF450R & was on it's last shim. Spoke to new world Honda about it & he recommends to go with stainless steel valves instead of the titanium valves. There where titaniums valves in it before hand just wondering which would last longer. I love the power, but I'm sick of taking the bike all the way to Narre Warren for a shim every time it losses power. It's impossible to start now because there must be no compression.
So what's best you reckon. Stainless steel or titanium. I know titanium is stronger & lighter but also more expensive.
It will cost me $700 for the head to reconditioned with stainless steel valves.
The 05 CRF450R has titanium valves for intake only & stainless steel for exhaust. Weird hay.
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Old 09-09-10, 17:54   #41
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You'll be looking back once you have to shim the valves. lol
Same with any 4 stroke banger/mx bike.
I should have gone the trail version. But the mx series are so much fun.
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Yz250 with an 11oz flywheel weight & a 52 tooth rear sprocket, great for the bush & easily converted back too racing.
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ive recently bought a 08 crf450x. awesome bike and i had no problems keeping up with my mate on his 09 yzf450 both our bike have aftermarket pipes, jetted and aftermarket hi flow air filters.
have only had it about 5 weeks and 2 weeks ago it seized, am pretty pissed off and dunno why it did it, came with full service history and i changed everything when i got it, oils + filter, air filter, spark plug, checked valve clearances, etc. so it will be getting a rebuild very soon, it was a very fun bike before that happened and cant wait to get back out there

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I have heard a fair few maintenance issues with the 2009/2010 crf450, Mate has one straight off the showroom floor he was having accelerator cable issues the bike would just go flat bikkies every now and then when he was riding it & then go back to normal. He has to do top end adjustments every 10 hours, hes been told if he leaves it longer it will cost him alot of money, which kind of sucks because he got the road reg'd model the crf450x. My old boss had a crf450r 2009 model and it seized up the second time he rode it.

I like my two strokes but I am pretty chunky and can see the benefits a four stroke offers but once you are used to the rattly ass 2 strokes nothing seems as fun
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You'll be looking back once you have to shim the valves. lol
Same with any 4 stroke banger/mx bike.
I should have gone the trail version. But the mx series are so much fun.
lol wont be for a long time, sorry to say it, unlike the hondas!
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Old 09-09-10, 23:11   #47
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Myself and two mates all invested in 3 brand new YZ450f's I was the smart one and got the blue :P







This was me stranded half way up one of the "walls" @ wombat. Anyone who's been to Wombat, I'm sure you know how it feels when your halfway up and you run out of momentum and she stalls.





This is my poor mate who come flying around a corner and thought this little rut was shallower than he expected. $200 later after fixing the kick start which had seized, lucky he didn't blow it up.





4 of the 6 bikes on the day.

3; '10 yz450f's
'06 KTM 250sx
'07 YZ250f
'09 CR450f

Was the most fun I think I ever had. Apart from getting lost for about 3 hours and nearly running out of fuel. So so so scary.


As for the debate between 2 stroke and 4 stroke;

For the bush I think 4 stroke is awesome as the power is there instantly at low speed and low rpm, where as I find on a two stroke you gotta rev the **** out of it to get going, the guy who came with us on the KTM was getting sick of the low speeds in and out of trees etc. Nevertheless I still wouldn't mind a 2 stroke for my next bike as the 450 is difficult to maintain, and the 2 stroke is just so much more fun to tear up a track on.

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Yeah I used to go to Wombat all the time, but I was one of those guys making those ruts so deep with my Patrol!
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My bike. Bought brand new YZ250F '09 US Spec.
Only started riding this year in April. Bought a new TTR230 which I outgrew quickly.
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