Calais Turbo

gmh-086 · 18-11-09, 17:41

not trying to be a smartass or anything, but arent the pistons different on a vlt to vl n/a?
and what is the difference if there is one?

KLR-747 · 18-11-09, 21:32

cheers Shaun, can they be purcahsed at a nut/bolt shop or do i need to buy specific ones?

Shaun_VL · 18-11-09, 23:59

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Originally Posted by KLR-747

cheers Shaun, can they be purcahsed at a nut/bolt shop or do i need to buy specific ones?

I doubt a nut and bolt shop would have them. They normally don't stock that kind of thing. But fluid/hydraulic shops should. I no Pirtek sell them that's where I got mine, check if one is near you.

http://www.pirtek.com.au

Sometimes nissan might also stock them. Let me no if you can't track any down

KLR-747 · 19-11-09, 06:30

thanks man, theres one about 15mins from so might go see em on saturday if im not working, otherwise will be another day.

WAGASM · 26-11-09, 14:32

heya. im new to this.. i have a berlina wagon and am going to do a turbo conversion on it. i have a t3t4 turbo with a high-mount manifold and 40mm wastegate.. just wondering how much psi is safe to run it on with out the 7th injector and decomp plate?

RobVL5spd · 29-11-09, 14:37

Wouldn't you need to decompress the engine ?

woodyotoa · 30-11-09, 20:00

i have just a standard setup, T3 lowmount standard intake with cross-over pipe (no cooler) and easly runs 7 psi on standard ECU and injectors
if this helps ya

oh this is still on a N/A engine with no de-comp plate

KLR-747 · 04-12-09, 07:44

Has someone got a pic of what the factory oil & water lines look like?

Is this them?

vltrb-0 · 04-12-09, 07:50

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Originally Posted by KLR-747

Has someone got a pic of what the factory oil & water lines look like?

Is this them?

bottom line looks right for water, top line is a fail. i've never had a line with the distributor block on it but that doesn't mean it wont work

KLR-747 · 04-12-09, 10:48

According to holmart the top one is a NOS holden item for the vl turbo??
So the bottom one is the right one and i wont have any problems with it?

woodyotoa · 06-12-09, 10:23

the top one is oil feed for the standard T3, it looks identical to the one i pulled off my turbo when i upgraded to braided :P

KLR-747 · 07-12-09, 07:41

thanks man thats all i needed to know

MB_Boy · 25-12-09, 08:56

im about to drop a turbo motor into my n/a and i jst wanted to know if a turbo wiring loom is needed along with the turbo ecu or can the n/a wiring loom be used? cheers

abrowne70 · 25-12-09, 10:00

you can use a N/A wiring loom mate, easy as

Wkd_Vl · 16-01-10, 13:52

yes but then you wont have the knock sensor

m4vr1k · 24-01-10, 17:32

Hate to dig up an old thread, but a few people have asked how much boost is safe to run on an n/a to turbo conversion, but there hasnt really been a definitive answer. I am in the middle of doing this exact conversion, and would like to know, I will be running a Bosch 044 pump, R32 GT-R injectors, a Nistune ECU and a T3/T4 on a S2 motor with no decompression plate, but a turbo head gasket. The motor has done 135,000km also.
Cheers
Zac

ekul · 24-01-10, 23:46

m4vr1k

The turbo headgasket would proberly be 1mm, so it would drop your compression to something in the high 8's, you can do it, but I would proberly only push something like 10psi, and look into finding the best nistune tuner you can find, to make sure theres no detination as that will be cruicial.

If i was you, i would put in a 1.9mm cometic headgasket onto it to drop the compression down more, then you can run more boost, while it being more safter, and knowing the headgasket wont go pop.

m4vr1k · 22-03-10, 18:54

Evening Calaisturbo, once more.
I must admit to a bit of confusion, with regards to the high pressure/low pressure fuel pump setup on the VL. As my car is simply an Executive, with the 3 liter N/A engine, do I need to replace both of these units? or am I able to simply upgrade the high pressure (in tank) with a good brand, high performance pump, and take out the low pressure pump altogether?

BS-86VL · 25-06-10, 22:48

hey mate doin the same thing to my rb30 do i need a decopretion plate and if so at wat pound boost could i get away with no decopretion plate

malpaso · 26-06-10, 19:03

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Originally Posted by m4vr1k

Evening Calaisturbo, once more.
I must admit to a bit of confusion, with regards to the high pressure/low pressure fuel pump setup on the VL. As my car is simply an Executive, with the 3 liter N/A engine, do I need to replace both of these units? or am I able to simply upgrade the high pressure (in tank) with a good brand, high performance pump, and take out the low pressure pump altogether?

you can get away with running the standard pumps with low boost for a while, i did and didn't run into any problems. but if you're looking to throw more power at it then a better fuel system is recommended

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Originally Posted by BS-86VL

hey mate doin the same thing to my rb30 do i need a decopretion plate and if so at wat pound boost could i get away with no decopretion plate

learn to spell and you might have more luck

again it is not needed unless more power/boost is going to be your aim

a "decompression" plate is not needed for a standard setup

Shaun_VL · 27-06-10, 01:23

Hey guys

Personally I wouldn't bother with a decomp plate unless the head gasket itself blows. There is no point pulling it all down for something that might not need doing for a year or even two. If you don't thrash your car everywhere then it should last.

As for boost I would say 12 psi would be max but I wouldn't run it daily. I used to run 9psi on low and 12psi on high and I had it for over and year it is has never had any problems

As for fuel, the stock pumps are fine for standard, you will no if you need a upgrade. When I was looking at upgrading my fuel system I was just going to get rid of the external fuel pump and stay with the internal and just replace it to a walbro pump. 6boost suggested this to me and said it has enough power to run high performance vehicles with just the single in tank pump[COLOR="Silver"]

Tomo · 27-06-10, 22:40

[QUOTE=Shaun_VL;2518806]Hey guys

Personally I wouldn't bother with a decomp plate unless the head gasket itself blows. There is no point pulling it all down for something that might not need doing for a year or even two. If you don't thrash your car everywhere then it should last.

As for boost I would say 12 psi would be max but I wouldn't run it daily. I used to run 9psi on low and 12psi on high and I had it for over and year it is has never had any problems

meh iv been running 15-17psi (gt35) daily, loves it.

havent had any problems either.

Shaun_VL · 28-06-10, 18:54

Yeah it is a bit of hit and miss really. I personally would rather be safe than sorry. That's why I didn't want to go over 12psi.

VL_Aero23 · 21-07-10, 15:19

hey if you have a plenum for a front mount cooler would u need the cross over pipe ??

jjjjjjjjj · 29-07-10, 13:27

nice very in depth and helpful

30-11-09, 20:00	#82
woodyotoa Player Join Date: 09-08-09 Location: Adelaide, Southern Suburbs Car: VL Turbo SL Auto Trader Rating: (0)	i have just a standard setup, T3 lowmount standard intake with cross-over pipe (no cooler) and easly runs 7 psi on standard ECU and injectors if this helps ya oh this is still on a N/A engine with no de-comp plate Last edited by woodyotoa; 30-11-09 at 20:03.

27-06-10, 01:23	#96
Shaun_VL Gold Members Join Date: 11-04-08 Location: Perth, south of the river Car: Vl SL turbo, RED 91 barina, vlct rb25det Trader Rating: (11)	Hey guys Personally I wouldn't bother with a decomp plate unless the head gasket itself blows. There is no point pulling it all down for something that might not need doing for a year or even two. If you don't thrash your car everywhere then it should last. As for boost I would say 12 psi would be max but I wouldn't run it daily. I used to run 9psi on low and 12psi on high and I had it for over and year it is has never had any problems As for fuel, the stock pumps are fine for standard, you will no if you need a upgrade. When I was looking at upgrading my fuel system I was just going to get rid of the external fuel pump and stay with the internal and just replace it to a walbro pump. 6boost suggested this to me and said it has enough power to run high performance vehicles with just the single in tank pump[COLOR="Silver"] Last edited by Shaun_VL; 28-06-10 at 18:53.

29-07-10, 13:27	#100
jjjjjjjjj Player Join Date: 29-07-10 Location: NSW, newcastle Car: vl executive 5sp n/a Trader Rating: (0)	nice very in depth and helpful __________________ Real holdens have nissan engines :)

26-11-09, 14:32	#80
WAGASM Player Join Date: 25-11-09 Location: Auckland, West Auckland Car: 1988 holden berlina, aka "THE 0 CYLINDER" Trader Rating: (0)	heya. im new to this.. i have a berlina wagon and am going to do a turbo conversion on it. i have a t3t4 turbo with a high-mount manifold and 40mm wastegate.. just wondering how much psi is safe to run it on with out the 7th injector and decomp plate?

29-11-09, 14:37	#81
RobVL5spd Player Join Date: 29-11-09 Location: NSW, Mid North Coast Car: VL Trader Rating: (0)	Wouldn't you need to decompress the engine ?

06-12-09, 10:23	#86
woodyotoa Player Join Date: 09-08-09 Location: Adelaide, Southern Suburbs Car: VL Turbo SL Auto Trader Rating: (0)	the top one is oil feed for the standard T3, it looks identical to the one i pulled off my turbo when i upgraded to braided :P

25-12-09, 08:56	#88
MB_Boy Player Join Date: 12-07-08 Location: Sydney, North Shore Car: Trader Rating: (3)	im about to drop a turbo motor into my n/a and i jst wanted to know if a turbo wiring loom is needed along with the turbo ecu or can the n/a wiring loom be used? cheers

25-12-09, 10:00	#89
abrowne70 Gold Members Join Date: 15-05-07 Location: Adelaide, South Car: VY SV8 Cammed Manual, VX V8 Turbo Trader Rating: (10)	you can use a N/A wiring loom mate, easy as

16-01-10, 13:52	#90
Wkd_Vl Player Join Date: 01-02-09 Location: Melbourne, S.E Car: VLT & Vz SV8 Trader Rating: (24)	yes but then you wont have the knock sensor

24-01-10, 17:32	#91
m4vr1k Player Join Date: 13-12-09 Location: NZ, Auckland Car: Trader Rating: (0)	Hate to dig up an old thread, but a few people have asked how much boost is safe to run on an n/a to turbo conversion, but there hasnt really been a definitive answer. I am in the middle of doing this exact conversion, and would like to know, I will be running a Bosch 044 pump, R32 GT-R injectors, a Nistune ECU and a T3/T4 on a S2 motor with no decompression plate, but a turbo head gasket. The motor has done 135,000km also. Cheers Zac

24-01-10, 23:46	#92
ekul Gold Members Join Date: 06-07-07 Location: Adelaide, western Car: vlt,ke70 Trader Rating: (4)	m4vr1k The turbo headgasket would proberly be 1mm, so it would drop your compression to something in the high 8's, you can do it, but I would proberly only push something like 10psi, and look into finding the best nistune tuner you can find, to make sure theres no detination as that will be cruicial. If i was you, i would put in a 1.9mm cometic headgasket onto it to drop the compression down more, then you can run more boost, while it being more safter, and knowing the headgasket wont go pop.

22-03-10, 18:54	#93
m4vr1k Player Join Date: 13-12-09 Location: NZ, Auckland Car: Trader Rating: (0)	Evening Calaisturbo, once more. I must admit to a bit of confusion, with regards to the high pressure/low pressure fuel pump setup on the VL. As my car is simply an Executive, with the 3 liter N/A engine, do I need to replace both of these units? or am I able to simply upgrade the high pressure (in tank) with a good brand, high performance pump, and take out the low pressure pump altogether?

25-06-10, 22:48	#94
BS-86VL Player Join Date: 25-06-10 Location: NSW, Albury Car: 87 vl turbo executive Trader Rating: (0)	hey mate doin the same thing to my rb30 do i need a decopretion plate and if so at wat pound boost could i get away with no decopretion plate

27-06-10, 22:40	#97
Tomo Player Join Date: 15-04-04 Location: Melbourne, northernish Car: vl berlina turbo, vx ss Trader Rating: (15)	[QUOTE=Shaun_VL;2518806]Hey guys Personally I wouldn't bother with a decomp plate unless the head gasket itself blows. There is no point pulling it all down for something that might not need doing for a year or even two. If you don't thrash your car everywhere then it should last. As for boost I would say 12 psi would be max but I wouldn't run it daily. I used to run 9psi on low and 12psi on high and I had it for over and year it is has never had any problems meh iv been running 15-17psi (gt35) daily, loves it. havent had any problems either.

28-06-10, 18:54	#98
Shaun_VL Gold Members Join Date: 11-04-08 Location: Perth, south of the river Car: Vl SL turbo, RED 91 barina, vlct rb25det Trader Rating: (11)	Yeah it is a bit of hit and miss really. I personally would rather be safe than sorry. That's why I didn't want to go over 12psi.

21-07-10, 15:19	#99
VL_Aero23 Player Join Date: 11-07-10 Location: QLD, Townsville Car: VL Commodore Trader Rating: (0)	hey if you have a plenum for a front mount cooler would u need the cross over pipe ??