Calais Turbo

gamble · 06-10-08, 18:53

the v8 and v6 vn rack body itself is the same you just have to change over the top housing where the hoses attach. in your case as calaisv8 said stick with the vl rack they are a lot more compact and make exhaust issues alot easier to overcome. the only good thing bout the vn v6 rack is that the input shaft is a bit further to the chassis rail and helps a bit. depends on what you want to do with your exhaust.

if you are starting with a 3l and do the conversion do you need an engineers report (in nsw) if you change to disc rear end and larger front discs? as well as front and rear v8 springs?

YBJLS4 · 04-11-08, 09:43

how goin guys... currently have reco'd a vn v8 k-frame and bolted that in. Now i'm ready to drop the motor and box in ( i have a t700), i was hoping som1 could tell me exactly which part of the floor needs to be knocked in to allow fitment of the gearbox. Is it the actual gear tunnel floor or the area up near the firewall where the bellhousing locates, and how far in do i actually knok away? i'm hoping to drop motor and box in the same time and save myself the hassel... any ideas... hopefully do the conversion this arvo or 2morrow.

another qn: if you use the conversion crossmember for a t5 in a vk, would that be the same for a vl? would that bolt up the same for a t700?

ive also used a vn v8 rack. so i'll let u guys know if i come across any problems

also the gearbox selector lever is on the opposite side (passengers) on the turbo700 as opposed to the vl jatco which is on the drivers side... how do i get around this problem... is there a linkage i need to make up?

BOB18U · 08-11-08, 02:48

the chassis is the same from vb-vl so the t5 mount will work on the vl but i dont think it'll bolt up to the auto.

Now for my question will a vn th700 gearbox mount bolt straight into a vl?
Apart from the speedo drive thi is the only issue i have if you start with a 6cyl vl.

YBJLS4 · 08-11-08, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOB18U

the chassis is the same from vb-vl so the t5 mount will work on the vl but i dont think it'll bolt up to the auto.

Now for my question will a vn th700 gearbox mount bolt straight into a vl?
Apart from the speedo drive thi is the only issue i have if you start with a 6cyl vl.

i got mine bolted up 2day no worries. i used turbo700 crossmember

i'm 3/4 way through completion of my conversion, may do up my own tech article. theres alot of problems that have arised and arent listed in this one.

gamble · 23-11-08, 18:37

can you use vn v8 extractors if you use the vn rack?

BOB18U · 26-11-08, 06:20

just use the vl rack its easier than trying to bolt the vn rack to the vl column.

YBJLS4 · 30-11-08, 13:20

i bolted mine up no worries

VL-355 · 21-12-08, 20:31

gday guys just about finished this conversion into my original 5lt carbie vl.

just needing some info on fuel side of things.
just wandering if the fuel sender unit's are the same or different between vl 6's and 8's.

also if anyone else who has done the conversion just wandering if they had any problems fitting the bonnet on when using the vl k-frame instead of the vn.

cheers guys.

YBJLS4 · 26-01-09, 09:23

any1 know how i go about the speedo cable from the turbo 700 to the vl v8 dash?

Skitzvk · 16-02-09, 20:44

how hard is the wiring side to it. like the loom for the injectors and ecu ???

Lubche · 16-02-09, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by YBJLS4

any1 know how i go about the speedo cable from the turbo 700 to the vl v8 dash?

need to buy the converter box from CRS. like $800.

NZ EVLHSV · 17-02-09, 05:33

Or put a VS cluster in...

Skitzvk · 05-03-09, 19:13

hey guys had a few questions

im curious about dropping a efi 304 into my vl 6

now the questions i have is

my car is a manual but the nissan manual mx5

will a T5 fit in my trans tunnel

next will i need a custom transmission mount made

can i use the standard cast exhaust manifolds

how hard is the basic wiring to do. just do get the car running

Psi_Wagon · 17-04-09, 19:37

heres a bit of info for anyone doing the conversion;

incase anyone was thinking of buying the CRS X-member to fit a turbo 350/400 into a VL keep this in mind.

you will need to modify it to clear the chassis rail ;

i bought the above yrs ago, but apparently you can use the standard trimatic xmember? not sure how true that is though.

ive seen alot of ppl ask about where you need to 'massage' the tunnel to clear the larger turbo XXX auto's. i have a turbo 350 so this may differ to the 400/700's.

here are the areas that need some bashing!

this part doesnt hit but is Very close!

i have used PH5700 (larger pipes) headers from Pacemaker, they say these dont fit VL. The only reason why they wouldnt fit is if you are running power stearing.
Just for the hell of it i tried fitting them with a power steering rack in and there is No Way they will fit!
chucked in my manual steering rack and clears fine. see pics for rack differences;

obvious space difference!

HK_LS1 · 19-04-09, 17:46

so what do u do when u finish the conversion.....

go tell vicroads / Rta that u have another engine in it...
what do they ask for when u give them the engine numbers??

when i asked them about a friend seizing his engine and having to put another one in, they said all they need is a reciept from where you got the engine with the numbers on it and all is fine, they put it in their system..

but i didnt ask em what if u go from a 6cylinder turbo/non turbz to a 5ltr....?? what will happen? what will u need to do?

PROGMH · 19-04-09, 21:51

Youll need the receipt and they will ask who installed it. If its you just tell them that.

Depending on who checks they will just check engine number while the smarter inspector will check all of the things you're supposed to have like cats and emission gear.

HK_LS1 · 19-04-09, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by PROGMH

Youll need the receipt and they will ask who installed it. If its you just tell them that.

Depending on who checks they will just check engine number while the smarter inspector will check all of the things you're supposed to have like cats and emission gear.

too easy.... just one problem... the 5.0ltr is my engine out of my VP... cant actually right out a reciept to myself... lol

any ideas? or im gonna have to call up vicroads.. =/

dvsgmh · 19-04-09, 22:27

just tell them that you put the motor from your vp in it, just be upfront with them and you will be fine!

HK_LS1 · 19-04-09, 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvsgmh

just tell them that you put the motor from your vp in it, just be upfront with them and you will be fine!

yeah, i wasnt planning on lying to them or anything... just would rather have everything with me on the day, instead of going there, then them telling me i need this, this, that, that... waste my time =p

^_-

YBJLS4 · 03-05-09, 19:08

just finished the conversion and got the car running 2day, glad to be of help if any1 needs it,

any1 got any idea where i can relocate the charcoal cannister? somewhere where it wont look dodgy in the bay?

i cant get my heater control to work too?

dvsgmh · 03-05-09, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by YBJLS4

just finished the conversion and got the car running 2day, glad to be of help if any1 needs it,

any1 got any idea where i can relocate the charcoal cannister? somewhere where it wont look dodgy in the bay?

i cant get my heater control to work too?

PUT SOME PICS UP!

HK_LS1 · 04-05-09, 15:19

would i be able to use the manual peddle box out of my VP CALAIS ? or do i needa get a VL one?

YBJLS4 · 04-05-09, 18:23

not sure how 2 post pics,..
theres a brass regulator at the front of the manifold where the cover sits on the drivers side, it has a large heater hose that goes to it, then at the bottom of the reg theres like a 4mm outlet for a hose... where is that hose meant to go??

NZ EVLHSV · 05-05-09, 06:18

www.photobucket.com

YBJLS4 · 06-05-09, 19:21

http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/v...nt=whatthe.jpg

this is the heater control valve, theres meant to be a vaccum line off that but where is it meant to go now?

some early pics of the conversion of mine can be found here.
i'll put some new ones up soon with the finished product

http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/korayzi/

06-10-08, 18:53	#51
gamble Player Join Date: 22-06-08 Location: NSW, murwillumbah, northern nsw Car: efi 304 exec/calais bits Trader Rating: (0)	the v8 and v6 vn rack body itself is the same you just have to change over the top housing where the hoses attach. in your case as calaisv8 said stick with the vl rack they are a lot more compact and make exhaust issues alot easier to overcome. the only good thing bout the vn v6 rack is that the input shaft is a bit further to the chassis rail and helps a bit. depends on what you want to do with your exhaust. if you are starting with a 3l and do the conversion do you need an engineers report (in nsw) if you change to disc rear end and larger front discs? as well as front and rear v8 springs? Last edited by gamble; 06-10-08 at 18:58. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-11-08, 09:43	#52
YBJLS4 Gold Members Join Date: 22-08-02 Location: Melbourne, Northern Suburbs (Melbourne) Car: 88' Calaisturbo, 87' Calais 355, SV88 Walkinshaw Build#164 Trader Rating: (5)	how goin guys... currently have reco'd a vn v8 k-frame and bolted that in. Now i'm ready to drop the motor and box in ( i have a t700), i was hoping som1 could tell me exactly which part of the floor needs to be knocked in to allow fitment of the gearbox. Is it the actual gear tunnel floor or the area up near the firewall where the bellhousing locates, and how far in do i actually knok away? i'm hoping to drop motor and box in the same time and save myself the hassel... any ideas... hopefully do the conversion this arvo or 2morrow. another qn: if you use the conversion crossmember for a t5 in a vk, would that be the same for a vl? would that bolt up the same for a t700? ive also used a vn v8 rack. so i'll let u guys know if i come across any problems also the gearbox selector lever is on the opposite side (passengers) on the turbo700 as opposed to the vl jatco which is on the drivers side... how do i get around this problem... is there a linkage i need to make up? Last edited by YBJLS4; 04-11-08 at 17:01. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

21-12-08, 20:31	#58
VL-355 Player Join Date: 13-12-08 Location: Sydney, northern beaches Car: VL commodore Trader Rating: (0)	vl 355 conversion gday guys just about finished this conversion into my original 5lt carbie vl. just needing some info on fuel side of things. just wandering if the fuel sender unit's are the same or different between vl 6's and 8's. also if anyone else who has done the conversion just wandering if they had any problems fitting the bonnet on when using the vl k-frame instead of the vn. cheers guys.

19-04-09, 17:46	#65
HK_LS1 Player Join Date: 02-12-07 Location: VIC, at home. Car: Trader Rating: (1)	so what do u do when u finish the conversion..... go tell vicroads / Rta that u have another engine in it... what do they ask for when u give them the engine numbers?? when i asked them about a friend seizing his engine and having to put another one in, they said all they need is a reciept from where you got the engine with the numbers on it and all is fine, they put it in their system.. but i didnt ask em what if u go from a 6cylinder turbo/non turbz to a 5ltr....?? what will happen? what will u need to do? __________________ ^_-

04-05-09, 15:19	#72
HK_LS1 Player Join Date: 02-12-07 Location: VIC, at home. Car: Trader Rating: (1)	would i be able to use the manual peddle box out of my VP CALAIS ? or do i needa get a VL one? __________________ ^_-

08-11-08, 02:48	#53
BOB18U Player Join Date: 22-11-03 Location: NSW, wollongong Car: Trader Rating: (2)	the chassis is the same from vb-vl so the t5 mount will work on the vl but i dont think it'll bolt up to the auto. Now for my question will a vn th700 gearbox mount bolt straight into a vl? Apart from the speedo drive thi is the only issue i have if you start with a 6cyl vl.

23-11-08, 18:37	#55
gamble Player Join Date: 22-06-08 Location: NSW, murwillumbah, northern nsw Car: efi 304 exec/calais bits Trader Rating: (0)	can you use vn v8 extractors if you use the vn rack?

26-11-08, 06:20	#56
BOB18U Player Join Date: 22-11-03 Location: NSW, wollongong Car: Trader Rating: (2)	just use the vl rack its easier than trying to bolt the vn rack to the vl column.

30-11-08, 13:20	#57
YBJLS4 Gold Members Join Date: 22-08-02 Location: Melbourne, Northern Suburbs (Melbourne) Car: 88' Calaisturbo, 87' Calais 355, SV88 Walkinshaw Build#164 Trader Rating: (5)	i bolted mine up no worries

26-01-09, 09:23	#59
YBJLS4 Gold Members Join Date: 22-08-02 Location: Melbourne, Northern Suburbs (Melbourne) Car: 88' Calaisturbo, 87' Calais 355, SV88 Walkinshaw Build#164 Trader Rating: (5)	any1 know how i go about the speedo cable from the turbo 700 to the vl v8 dash?

16-02-09, 20:44	#60
Skitzvk BANNED Join Date: 01-12-07 Location: VIC, Hp Car: Vl SL 5 SPD Trader Rating: (7)	how hard is the wiring side to it. like the loom for the injectors and ecu ???

17-02-09, 05:33	#62
NZ EVLHSV Player Join Date: 11-07-06 Location: NZ, Auckland Car: Gen-F GTS Trader Rating: (0)	Or put a VS cluster in...

05-03-09, 19:13	#63
Skitzvk BANNED Join Date: 01-12-07 Location: VIC, Hp Car: Vl SL 5 SPD Trader Rating: (7)	hey guys had a few questions im curious about dropping a efi 304 into my vl 6 now the questions i have is my car is a manual but the nissan manual mx5 will a T5 fit in my trans tunnel next will i need a custom transmission mount made can i use the standard cast exhaust manifolds how hard is the basic wiring to do. just do get the car running

17-04-09, 19:37	#64
Psi_Wagon Wagon > Sedan Join Date: 15-06-03 Location: Melbourne, North-West suburbs Car: 4x VL, VE, VH, 2x Mightyboy, '51 Ford F1, Volvo 240 Wagon drifter Trader Rating: (39)	heres a bit of info for anyone doing the conversion; incase anyone was thinking of buying the CRS X-member to fit a turbo 350/400 into a VL keep this in mind. you will need to modify it to clear the chassis rail ; i bought the above yrs ago, but apparently you can use the standard trimatic xmember? not sure how true that is though. ive seen alot of ppl ask about where you need to 'massage' the tunnel to clear the larger turbo XXX auto's. i have a turbo 350 so this may differ to the 400/700's. here are the areas that need some bashing! this part doesnt hit but is Very close! i have used PH5700 (larger pipes) headers from Pacemaker, they say these dont fit VL. The only reason why they wouldnt fit is if you are running power stearing. Just for the hell of it i tried fitting them with a power steering rack in and there is No Way they will fit! chucked in my manual steering rack and clears fine. see pics for rack differences; obvious space difference!

19-04-09, 21:51	#66
PROGMH Moderator Join Date: 16-10-05 Location: VIC, VIC Car: Trader Rating: (26)	Youll need the receipt and they will ask who installed it. If its you just tell them that. Depending on who checks they will just check engine number while the smarter inspector will check all of the things you're supposed to have like cats and emission gear.

19-04-09, 22:27	#68
dvsgmh Player Join Date: 01-07-06 Location: Melbourne, narre warren Car: YELLOW VK BT1, HARLEY DAVIDSON 883 Trader Rating: (43)	just tell them that you put the motor from your vp in it, just be upfront with them and you will be fine!

03-05-09, 19:08	#70
YBJLS4 Gold Members Join Date: 22-08-02 Location: Melbourne, Northern Suburbs (Melbourne) Car: 88' Calaisturbo, 87' Calais 355, SV88 Walkinshaw Build#164 Trader Rating: (5)	just finished the conversion and got the car running 2day, glad to be of help if any1 needs it, any1 got any idea where i can relocate the charcoal cannister? somewhere where it wont look dodgy in the bay? i cant get my heater control to work too?

04-05-09, 18:23	#73
YBJLS4 Gold Members Join Date: 22-08-02 Location: Melbourne, Northern Suburbs (Melbourne) Car: 88' Calaisturbo, 87' Calais 355, SV88 Walkinshaw Build#164 Trader Rating: (5)	not sure how 2 post pics,.. theres a brass regulator at the front of the manifold where the cover sits on the drivers side, it has a large heater hose that goes to it, then at the bottom of the reg theres like a 4mm outlet for a hose... where is that hose meant to go??

05-05-09, 06:18	#74
NZ EVLHSV Player Join Date: 11-07-06 Location: NZ, Auckland Car: Gen-F GTS Trader Rating: (0)	www.photobucket.com

06-05-09, 19:21	#75
YBJLS4 Gold Members Join Date: 22-08-02 Location: Melbourne, Northern Suburbs (Melbourne) Car: 88' Calaisturbo, 87' Calais 355, SV88 Walkinshaw Build#164 Trader Rating: (5)	http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/v...nt=whatthe.jpg this is the heater control valve, theres meant to be a vaccum line off that but where is it meant to go now? some early pics of the conversion of mine can be found here. i'll put some new ones up soon with the finished product http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/korayzi/ Last edited by YBJLS4; 06-05-09 at 20:30. Reason: Automerged Doublepost