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Old 08-01-14, 12:45   #1
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E85 setup costs

Quik q, how much money am I looking at spending on an e85 setup including injectors (rough estimate including fittings hoses and labour of course). Thanks
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Old 08-01-14, 13:03   #2
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Varies wildly, mate. You can spend top dollar and replace everything with the best parts and it'll set you back thousands, or you can use a mixture of standard parts and Aeroflow and it will cost slightly less.

However, it'll cost you 'slightly less' several times, because you'll constantly be replacing ****...
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Old 08-01-14, 17:24   #3
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Well maatouks quoted me 23 including injectors
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Old 08-01-14, 18:17   #4
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Well maatouks quoted me 23 including injectors
$2300?

That seems cheap, a descent high hp fuel pump is $850 alone. Then injectors $660. Thats $1500 already and you still have to run braided -12/-10 fuel line and speedflow fitting to suit. Then labour costs.
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Old 08-01-14, 21:34   #5
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I wouldnt have much change from 3000. Thats id2000s, 2x044s, 2x billet filters, 2x 3/8 feed, 1x 1/2 return, fuelab reg, all the new braid and fittings.
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Old 08-01-14, 23:10   #6
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3GS sounds about right to me... My car made 290 rrwkw at 17 psi, I'm looking at making 330 kw plus, people say its safer to run e85 what do they mean by this?
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Old 09-01-14, 06:03   #7
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Mines -12 braided Teflon to 2000hp aero motive pump to -10 braided Teflon line to billet free to -10 braided to id2000's then some aero motive reg then -10 braided Teflon return to cell. I think owes around 3k
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Old 09-01-14, 07:47   #8
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Mine owed me 4.6k, that was with fuel cell, pumps, line, injectors, fuel rail, reg, speedflow fittings. That was 7 years ago tho, no doubt it would be cheaper these days.
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Old 09-01-14, 19:33   #9
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does the fuel tank need to be changed?
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Old 09-01-14, 19:48   #10
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You don't have to run a cell but just makes it easier to setup if you do
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Old 09-01-14, 20:56   #11
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I run a fuel cell 2x o44 pumps 1600cc injectors and all dash 10 speedflow lines and fittings i think i spent about $2000 carnt remember mite have been more i lost count
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Old 10-01-14, 00:12   #12
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I know its a bit off topic but is everyone running -10 braided line to either side of the fuel rail?

Or do you run -10 braided line from the fuel pump to up into the engine bay. Then put a -10 to -8 Y fitting in then run two -8 braided lines to either side of the rail?
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Old 10-01-14, 07:27   #13
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depends what size pump, setup etc you are running, mine runs -10 to both sides and all the way to rear of car with a 2000hp aeromotive pump

running multiple pumps eg. 2 or 3 044 is dangerous because if one fails you wont really know and it could lean out, at least with one large one if it fails your car wont run at all.
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Old 10-01-14, 08:31   #14
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I know its a bit off topic but is everyone running -10 braided line to either side of the fuel rail?

Or do you run -10 braided line from the fuel pump to up into the engine bay. Then put a -10 to -8 Y fitting in then run two -8 braided lines to either side of the rail?
Personally, I'm not running twin feed just yet. I'm running a single -10AN which feeds at the rear of the rail, then -10AN from the front to the reg' and a single -8AN return.

The only dual line I have in the car is in the boot: -10AN in and out of two 044s and a -10AN to -10AN Y-piece to run a single line from the boot to the engine bay.

Apparently a smaller return is better for some reason. Something to do with fuel pressure or some jazz...

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Old 10-01-14, 09:12   #15
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I'm in the middle of going e85 and looking for maximum 550rwkw what lines and fuel system should I use?
I've got a standard tank with a 8l surge tank with standard intake and external pump feeding it, 1600cc injectors and a aeromotive reg, pump feeding it but bit confused on lines and fuel pumps and if the fuel pumps will supply the surge tank, any info much appreciated thank you
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Old 10-01-14, 21:55   #16
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I know its a bit off topic but is everyone running -10 braided line to either side of the fuel rail?

Or do you run -10 braided line from the fuel pump to up into the engine bay. Then put a -10 to -8 Y fitting in then run two -8 braided lines to either side of the rail?
I run -10an each side of the rail.
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Old 10-01-14, 22:14   #17
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This is my fuel setup which I use for e85.

Only 1 line runs forward as its a deadhead setup. No return as the Fuel Reg is in the boot along with the rest of the fuel system.

All lines are -6. As its a deadhead system, -6 is all it needs - however, I might need to upgrade to a -8 feed if I start looking for more power.



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I run a cell, 2x 044's, y's to a single -8 line to the rail, then -8 to reg/return to tank. Was splitting up the front to 2 -8 and feeding both ends of the rail and regulating/returning from the middle but recently changed that setup.
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Old 11-01-14, 15:32   #19
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I run a 57L cell, 2.5L surge tank, Carter black pump from cell to surge, 2x bosch 044's, Turbosmart fpr2000 fuel reg, Billet fuel rail, Rochestor 1000cc injectors and -8 fuel lines through the whole car. Wouldn't have cost me more than $15-1600 I done all the work myself though.
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Old 12-01-14, 13:17   #20
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Personally, I'm not running twin feed just yet. I'm running a single -10AN which feeds at the rear of the rail, then -10AN from the front to the reg' and a single -8AN return.

The only dual line I have in the car is in the boot: -10AN in and out of two 044s and a -10AN to -10AN Y-piece to run a single line from the boot to the engine bay.

Apparently a smaller return is better for some reason. Something to do with fuel pressure or some jazz...

Hey mate
are you running fuel filters befor the 044 pump ? any issue running that way ?
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Old 12-01-14, 18:34   #21
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anyone know someone or somewhere selling a full setup any leads will be appreciated thanks
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Old 13-01-14, 08:04   #22
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are you running fuel filters befor the 044 pump ? any issue running that way ?
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Yep, Speedflow jobs. Microns I'm not sure of but it's just as important to run filters before your pumps as it is after them, especially with E85.

Think about the standard VL fuel pump set up - the intank pump has a gauze filter attached to it...
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Use Metal Filters. DO NOT use paper filters like the factory VL Fuel Filter. The Ethanol content will turn it to a glob and block everything up.... ask me how I know.. lol.
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Old 14-01-14, 19:38   #24
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How much power are people making on e85?
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Old 14-01-14, 19:59   #25
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I have a Aeroflow filter -10 stainless element 100 micron I wont be using. new unused, Ideal for e85 fuel system. Pm me if interested.$100
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