Calais Turbo

jbonez · 23-11-08, 21:52

Well the welds are just to hold the booster into place.. If you get it welded properly I wouldn't expect it to happen.

-Kenny- · 24-11-08, 19:47

welds wont break if u know how to weld. one thing i have noticed is that the firewall flexes when you apply the brake. so im gonna drill new holes in the vl master cyl/strut tower bracket to help support it. i'll throw a pic up when its done

Com_VC · 22-12-08, 22:30

What’s the deal with the VS Master Cylinder Reservoir, the hole doesn’t line up as a lot of others have mentioned in this thread but in the first post it says to use VS Reservoir?

markovr · 27-12-08, 19:33

You have to be joking...never trust a single weld to keep it all secure....use jimbos page as a guide and you bend your old bracket and weld it to another flat fabricated bracket ...you could even use the 10mm bracket but this setup doesnt depend on one single weld for strength and uses the original studs and nuts for strength like it was designed.... any weld just keeps everything together so it bolts up......use this site http://users.bigpond.net.au/jimbo123/VN/ under mods as a guide. its for a vn but the setup is the same for previous models like a vl

madrx3boy · 06-01-09, 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZ VL com

pinch a set of front brake lines fron a VN up car instead of the adapters as then all 4 flares are matching the VT gear, just 1 adapter for the rear

I've just Bought the VT upgrade for my VL (VT discs, VT calipers, VL to VT braided hoses).

If i get the VN up front brake lines, can I still use the braided hoses that I got?

If not then I'll just get the VL ones re-flared

NZ VL com · 06-01-09, 18:40

check the ends are correct, think you will just need to change the m/c flares

you got the vs booster?is you car turbo?let me know how you go as i have had big problems

madrx3boy · 07-01-09, 07:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZ VL com

check the ends are correct, think you will just need to change the m/c flares

you got the vs booster?your can turbo?let me know how you go as i have had big problems

hopefully its just the master ones that need to be changed. although if im taking the VL lines out anyway I mite as well just get them re-flared rather than buying later model lines.

na i dont have the vs booster or vt master cyl yet, but thats the combination i plan to do (vs booster, vt master).

and no my car is not turbo. Yet

I'll let you know how i go. Mite be a while tho.

Also, Does ANYONE know whats the deal with the VS Reservoir on the VT Master? In the 1st post thats what the dude says to use but everyone says that it doesn't fit?

Is there any other reservoir that'll fit on AND sit on the correct angle?

NZ VL com · 07-01-09, 08:32

what parts u got as i have some some spares here

madrx3boy · 07-01-09, 09:35

Parts? what parts? nothing yet but I will be needing VT master, VS V6 booster, and a reservoir. probly all of which i'll get from Advanced or something.

AND I would prefer some line adapters too, so much easier.

Emailed ENZED a few weeks ago, explaining i was after some adapters to convert VL lines to VT master, and they told me the VT flare (cant remember what it was called, single or ball flare or something) is illegal! WTF its a newer car????

NZ VL com · 07-01-09, 12:23

yeh good luck finding the expensive adapters, it will work with the VT tank,i have a vs booster here if you want it,i thought the hassle of the adapters wasnt worth the money so i went to the wreckers,yeh it only cost $5 to change the flares,there are 5 to change front 4,rear 1,dont need custom hoses just use VT and bolt the bracket to the body near the old one

madrx3boy · 07-01-09, 12:36

ohk well i've got the front custom hoses anyway so i don't need to worry about that.

when changing the flares, who did you get to do that? and do the lines need to be taken out or do they do it on the car?

is the booster working fine and is it a v6 one? how much do ya want for it?

NZ VL com · 07-01-09, 13:13

yes the lines had to be taken out but try your brake shop, i used apex brake, the booster i got is fine i paid $60

5spdvl · 07-01-09, 19:24

Poor man pays twice kids.

These are BRAKES - don't pay with your life.

NZ VL com · 07-01-09, 21:08

anyone had problems with the vacum in the booster making the brakes to hold on?

-Kenny- · 07-01-09, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by madrx3boy

Emailed ENZED a few weeks ago, explaining i was after some adapters to convert VL lines to VT master, and they told me the VT flare (cant remember what it was called, single or ball flare or something) is illegal! WTF its a newer car????

VL is single flare VT is double flare. Different ADRs would make it illegal ie, if u put a single flare on a VT

Quote:

Originally Posted by markovr

You have to be joking...never trust a single weld to keep it all secure....use jimbos page as a guide and you bend your old bracket and weld it to another flat fabricated bracket ...you could even use the 10mm bracket but this setup doesnt depend on one single weld for strength and uses the original studs and nuts for strength like it was designed.... any weld just keeps everything together so it bolts up......use this site http://users.bigpond.net.au/jimbo123/VN/ under mods as a guide. its for a vn but the setup is the same for previous models like a vl

I'll just make a comment to save any ambiguity. markovr, mate i dont think you quite understand what I'm achieving here. I've had this checked with a mechanical engineer so there is no problem with the structual integrity with this mod. btw this "setup doesnt depend on a single weld for strength" there are a series of spot welds, which is wot holds your monocoque chasis together. that said theres probably nothing wrong with your mates mod either, im sure there are many ways it can be fitted, this is just my way. cheers

Grega · 07-01-09, 21:59

i stopped by hoppers stoppers today. they are short of the 10mm adaptors but have the 12mm adaptors at the moment. they're on order and should be in soon.

Reckless · 09-01-09, 15:36

Has anyone had problems connecting the VS V6 Booster to the pedal

NZ VL com · 09-01-09, 16:45

no the vs booster fits perfect if its up the right way

Reckless · 09-01-09, 18:09

I'll keep trying its a tight fit

NTMID 8 · 16-01-09, 09:49

To help with the confusion why some of you can fit the master cylinder and others cant VT commodores came out with two (2) different master cylinders. Firstly the difference is one (1) is an ABS version the second is a NON-ABS version. The ABS version has two (2) fittings close to the front that go to the ABS module. The NON-ABS version is the one (1) that you need for this mod as it has the outlets like in the pictures. I hope this helps with some of the confusion.

madrx3boy · 16-01-09, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTMID 8

To help with the confusion why some of you can fit the booster and others cant VT commodores came out with two (2) different boosters. Firstly the difference is one (1) is an ABS version the second is a NON-ABS version. The ABS version has two (2) fittings close to the front and a third line that goes to the ABS module. The NON-ABS version is the one (1) that you need for this mod as it has the outlets like in the pictures. I hope this helps with some of the confusion.

Don't you mean the master cylinder (not the booster)? and wouldnt the ABS master have only 2 fittings (that go to the ABS module), and the Non-ABS have 3 fittings?

-Kenny- · 16-01-09, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTMID 8

To help with the confusion why some of you can fit the booster and others cant VT commodores came out with two (2) different boosters. Firstly the difference is one (1) is an ABS version the second is a NON-ABS version. The ABS version has two (2) fittings close to the front and a third line that goes to the ABS module. The NON-ABS version is the one (1) that you need for this mod as it has the outlets like in the pictures. I hope this helps with some of the confusion.

u mean to assist with the confusion

NTMID 8 · 17-01-09, 17:02

done, sorry for trying to help but i wrote that after night shift and 5hrs o/t

madrx3boy · 17-01-09, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTMID 8

done, sorry for trying to help but i wrote that after night shift and 5hrs o/t

no worries mate I knew what ya meant

jbonez · 31-01-09, 21:22

Just bled up my vs booster vt master combination & god damn its fantastic. Highly recommended. Thanks for the article.

27-12-08, 19:33	#79
markovr Player Join Date: 02-11-04 Location: QLD, NORTH Car: vr commodore,vz commodore, vn commodore ,vh commodore Trader Rating: (0)	You have to be joking...never trust a single weld to keep it all secure....use jimbos page as a guide and you bend your old bracket and weld it to another flat fabricated bracket ...you could even use the 10mm bracket but this setup doesnt depend on one single weld for strength and uses the original studs and nuts for strength like it was designed.... any weld just keeps everything together so it bolts up......use this site http://users.bigpond.net.au/jimbo123/VN/ under mods as a guide. its for a vn but the setup is the same for previous models like a vl . Last edited by markovr; 27-12-08 at 20:15.

06-01-09, 18:40	#81
NZ VL com Player Join Date: 16-03-08 Location: NZ, Hamilton Car: vl calais, vl royale 195kw non turbo Trader Rating: (0)	check the ends are correct, think you will just need to change the m/c flares you got the vs booster?is you car turbo?let me know how you go as i have had big problems __________________ looking for VL wagon FS AUS 3Lt man Last edited by NZ VL com; 17-01-09 at 18:14. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

07-01-09, 08:32	#83
NZ VL com Player Join Date: 16-03-08 Location: NZ, Hamilton Car: vl calais, vl royale 195kw non turbo Trader Rating: (0)	what parts u got as i have some some spares here __________________ looking for VL wagon FS AUS 3Lt man

07-01-09, 12:23	#85
NZ VL com Player Join Date: 16-03-08 Location: NZ, Hamilton Car: vl calais, vl royale 195kw non turbo Trader Rating: (0)	yeh good luck finding the expensive adapters, it will work with the VT tank,i have a vs booster here if you want it,i thought the hassle of the adapters wasnt worth the money so i went to the wreckers,yeh it only cost $5 to change the flares,there are 5 to change front 4,rear 1,dont need custom hoses just use VT and bolt the bracket to the body near the old one __________________ looking for VL wagon FS AUS 3Lt man

07-01-09, 13:13	#87
NZ VL com Player Join Date: 16-03-08 Location: NZ, Hamilton Car: vl calais, vl royale 195kw non turbo Trader Rating: (0)	yes the lines had to be taken out but try your brake shop, i used apex brake, the booster i got is fine i paid $60 __________________ looking for VL wagon FS AUS 3Lt man

23-11-08, 21:52	#76
jbonez King Of Re-Work Join Date: 13-02-08 Location: Brisbane, Northside Car: Daily grinder Trader Rating: (1)	Well the welds are just to hold the booster into place.. If you get it welded properly I wouldn't expect it to happen.

24-11-08, 19:47	#77
-Kenny- BANNED Join Date: 12-12-07 Location: NSW, Newcastle Car: vl turbo, ford courier Trader Rating: (0)	welds wont break if u know how to weld. one thing i have noticed is that the firewall flexes when you apply the brake. so im gonna drill new holes in the vl master cyl/strut tower bracket to help support it. i'll throw a pic up when its done

22-12-08, 22:30	#78
Com_VC Player Join Date: 27-06-03 Location: Melbourne, south east suburbs Car: VC Commodore Trader Rating: (1)	What’s the deal with the VS Master Cylinder Reservoir, the hole doesn’t line up as a lot of others have mentioned in this thread but in the first post it says to use VS Reservoir?

07-01-09, 09:35	#84
madrx3boy Gold Members Join Date: 14-09-08 Location: NZ, Auckland Car: '87 VL Berlina Trader Rating: (0)	Parts? what parts? nothing yet but I will be needing VT master, VS V6 booster, and a reservoir. probly all of which i'll get from Advanced or something. AND I would prefer some line adapters too, so much easier. Emailed ENZED a few weeks ago, explaining i was after some adapters to convert VL lines to VT master, and they told me the VT flare (cant remember what it was called, single or ball flare or something) is illegal! WTF its a newer car????

07-01-09, 12:36	#86
madrx3boy Gold Members Join Date: 14-09-08 Location: NZ, Auckland Car: '87 VL Berlina Trader Rating: (0)	ohk well i've got the front custom hoses anyway so i don't need to worry about that. when changing the flares, who did you get to do that? and do the lines need to be taken out or do they do it on the car? is the booster working fine and is it a v6 one? how much do ya want for it?

07-01-09, 19:24	#88
5spdvl Aaaaaaand it's gone. Join Date: 29-07-07 Location: VIC, City Car: It used to be this Trader Rating: (22)	Poor man pays twice kids. These are BRAKES - don't pay with your life.

07-01-09, 21:08	#89
NZ VL com Player Join Date: 16-03-08 Location: NZ, Hamilton Car: vl calais, vl royale 195kw non turbo Trader Rating: (0)	anyone had problems with the vacum in the booster making the brakes to hold on? __________________ looking for VL wagon FS AUS 3Lt man

07-01-09, 21:59	#91
Grega Player Join Date: 21-07-03 Location: Melbourne, Hoppers Car: Trader Rating: (9)	i stopped by hoppers stoppers today. they are short of the 10mm adaptors but have the 12mm adaptors at the moment. they're on order and should be in soon. __________________ Cheers Grega

09-01-09, 15:36	#92
Reckless Player Join Date: 06-11-05 Location: NSW, Banora Point Car: VL Calais Trader Rating: (5)	Has anyone had problems connecting the VS V6 Booster to the pedal

09-01-09, 16:45	#93
NZ VL com Player Join Date: 16-03-08 Location: NZ, Hamilton Car: vl calais, vl royale 195kw non turbo Trader Rating: (0)	no the vs booster fits perfect if its up the right way __________________ looking for VL wagon FS AUS 3Lt man

09-01-09, 18:09	#94
Reckless Player Join Date: 06-11-05 Location: NSW, Banora Point Car: VL Calais Trader Rating: (5)	I'll keep trying its a tight fit

16-01-09, 09:49	#95
NTMID 8 SOLD Join Date: 30-11-04 Location: SA, Gawler Car: VX SS Trader Rating: (17)	To help with the confusion why some of you can fit the master cylinder and others cant VT commodores came out with two (2) different master cylinders. Firstly the difference is one (1) is an ABS version the second is a NON-ABS version. The ABS version has two (2) fittings close to the front that go to the ABS module. The NON-ABS version is the one (1) that you need for this mod as it has the outlets like in the pictures. I hope this helps with some of the confusion. __________________ If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular? Last edited by NTMID 8; 17-01-09 at 17:02.

17-01-09, 17:02	#98
NTMID 8 SOLD Join Date: 30-11-04 Location: SA, Gawler Car: VX SS Trader Rating: (17)	done, sorry for trying to help but i wrote that after night shift and 5hrs o/t __________________ If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular?

31-01-09, 21:22	#100
jbonez King Of Re-Work Join Date: 13-02-08 Location: Brisbane, Northside Car: Daily grinder Trader Rating: (1)	Just bled up my vs booster vt master combination & god damn its fantastic. Highly recommended. Thanks for the article.